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		<title>By: let the people judge</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is kinda strange that when someone knows the science all these arm chair autism experts run
for the hills. You see darkness hates lite, liars hate the truth.  what ever happened to the probe and james.  probe with this statement It has been designed to protect young children whose immune systems cannot handle the live viril of several deadly or disabling diseases. where do you get this misinformation with the current cookie cutter vaccine schedule all children are treated the same? but let me show you how stupid this system is.  A person is told if you are alergic to thimerosal don't get this shot or use this product, now just who knows who is alergic when they most likley never heard of thimerosal?
That's people who have made a dangerous product and attempting to do some serious CYA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is kinda strange that when someone knows the science all these arm chair autism experts run<br />
for the hills. You see darkness hates lite, liars hate the truth.  what ever happened to the probe and james.  probe with this statement It has been designed to protect young children whose immune systems cannot handle the live viril of several deadly or disabling diseases. where do you get this misinformation with the current cookie cutter vaccine schedule all children are treated the same? but let me show you how stupid this system is.  A person is told if you are alergic to thimerosal don&#8217;t get this shot or use this product, now just who knows who is alergic when they most likley never heard of thimerosal?<br />
That&#8217;s people who have made a dangerous product and attempting to do some serious CYA.</p>
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		<title>By: Let the people judge</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fact #7 for every 1000 lbs of mercury emitted in the air there was a 43% increase in special education needs and a 63% increase in autism rates the study revisited found the closer to the plume the more autism and other disorders source health science center out of San Antonio
TX study, So children exposed to airborne mercury can cause autism but vaccinal mercury twice as toxic cannot. Somebody is either very stupid or very criminal and EVIL or scared,and they have staked their entire careers on the safety of something that appears to be decimating our children. In numbers that are unbelievable…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact #7 for every 1000 lbs of mercury emitted in the air there was a 43% increase in special education needs and a 63% increase in autism rates the study revisited found the closer to the plume the more autism and other disorders source health science center out of San Antonio<br />
TX study, So children exposed to airborne mercury can cause autism but vaccinal mercury twice as toxic cannot. Somebody is either very stupid or very criminal and EVIL or scared,and they have staked their entire careers on the safety of something that appears to be decimating our children. In numbers that are unbelievable…</p>
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		<title>By: Let the people judge</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fact #1 ethylmercury is neurotoxic and twice as
toxic as fish mercury source; Burbacher study
and a japanese study, their own words not mine
since it took half as much Ethy - mercury to do the same damage then I would say it’s twice as toxic the methyl 

Fact #2 it’s accumulative in the body source; MSDS
makers of Thimerosal

Fact #3 it targets the organs of the body in particular brain and the lining around the brain
source; video of Sigma-Aldrich under oath stating that as fact

Fact #4 well known mercury causes neron cell death apoptosis, aluminum causes neron cell death apoptosis source ; study out of Canada their words not mine we have neron cell death, also the two salts mixed the synergy effect, cell death times ten source; at the simpsonwood meeting they discussed this 

Fact #5 most children that have Autism, a lot
of them have high testosterone. A runaway making of testosterone like a switch stuck open new science shows that glutathion is depleted by thimerosal thus stopping the body from regulating
testosterone also a yale univ. study shows for the first time that high testosterone causes catastrophic loss of brain cells source; Yale study she the author found that estrogen was protective of nuron cell death sounds like Dr. Giers and Dr. Haley research, she the lead author was also shocked that children’s vaccines contained aluminum and mercury

Fact #6 all ingredients contained in children’s vaccines especially inorganic mercury can deplete the glutathione needed to excrete heavy metals and cause mito - dysfunction / disorder not to be confused with the genetic version mito disease...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact #1 ethylmercury is neurotoxic and twice as<br />
toxic as fish mercury source; Burbacher study<br />
and a japanese study, their own words not mine<br />
since it took half as much Ethy - mercury to do the same damage then I would say it’s twice as toxic the methyl </p>
<p>Fact #2 it’s accumulative in the body source; MSDS<br />
makers of Thimerosal</p>
<p>Fact #3 it targets the organs of the body in particular brain and the lining around the brain<br />
source; video of Sigma-Aldrich under oath stating that as fact</p>
<p>Fact #4 well known mercury causes neron cell death apoptosis, aluminum causes neron cell death apoptosis source ; study out of Canada their words not mine we have neron cell death, also the two salts mixed the synergy effect, cell death times ten source; at the simpsonwood meeting they discussed this </p>
<p>Fact #5 most children that have Autism, a lot<br />
of them have high testosterone. A runaway making of testosterone like a switch stuck open new science shows that glutathion is depleted by thimerosal thus stopping the body from regulating<br />
testosterone also a yale univ. study shows for the first time that high testosterone causes catastrophic loss of brain cells source; Yale study she the author found that estrogen was protective of nuron cell death sounds like Dr. Giers and Dr. Haley research, she the lead author was also shocked that children’s vaccines contained aluminum and mercury</p>
<p>Fact #6 all ingredients contained in children’s vaccines especially inorganic mercury can deplete the glutathione needed to excrete heavy metals and cause mito - dysfunction / disorder not to be confused with the genetic version mito disease&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was from a congressional hearing by congressman Dan Burton.
Dr. Egan from CEBER when being grilled by the congressman about thimerosal. “How on his watch a generation of children was lost he was asked how come their has not been no studies done on the product Thimerosal except the ones done in 1929 on 22 people dieing of meningitis.
They all died and we don’t know if this is safe or not” (I looked this study up on the FDA website they were followed only one day,) that sickens me, this man that was so cocky at first became like a worm he almost could not stand on his own two feet he was stumbling over his words and his eyes were as big as saucers it took two women from HHS to get him out of there. One on both sides of him holding his criminal ass up so you think they don’t know the damage they are responsible for. A lost generation, how a person if you can call them that, can choose to protect a worthless vaccine program or even their careers on the backs of sick children is Mind Boggling. I
watched a normal child in two days completely
change, Starting with a Knot at the injection site the size of a mans fist or half of a Nerf
football shaped oval, so hot you could burn your self touching it. On a 27 month old leg it was like having a leg on a leg mercury and aluminum creates the production of heat old timers who pan for gold knew that alum. and merc. react violently together so what the hell is this doing in children’s vaccines? The next day three mini seizures then all he was is gone with in months all speech gone, except Daaaaaad mum Nooo Nooo 
I watched it with my own eyes, he also has very severely bad gut issues that the gastroenterologist says is just
autisms, bad behavior but when the pain comes on my teenager cries like a baby he starts saying Noooooo Nooooooo then it’s becomes screaming
and can only be calmed with Gas X Oh! but it’s all in their heads this gut wrenching pain!!! what self serving morons we have in the medical community. continued</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was from a congressional hearing by congressman Dan Burton.<br />
Dr. Egan from CEBER when being grilled by the congressman about thimerosal. “How on his watch a generation of children was lost he was asked how come their has not been no studies done on the product Thimerosal except the ones done in 1929 on 22 people dieing of meningitis.<br />
They all died and we don’t know if this is safe or not” (I looked this study up on the FDA website they were followed only one day,) that sickens me, this man that was so cocky at first became like a worm he almost could not stand on his own two feet he was stumbling over his words and his eyes were as big as saucers it took two women from HHS to get him out of there. One on both sides of him holding his criminal ass up so you think they don’t know the damage they are responsible for. A lost generation, how a person if you can call them that, can choose to protect a worthless vaccine program or even their careers on the backs of sick children is Mind Boggling. I<br />
watched a normal child in two days completely<br />
change, Starting with a Knot at the injection site the size of a mans fist or half of a Nerf<br />
football shaped oval, so hot you could burn your self touching it. On a 27 month old leg it was like having a leg on a leg mercury and aluminum creates the production of heat old timers who pan for gold knew that alum. and merc. react violently together so what the hell is this doing in children’s vaccines? The next day three mini seizures then all he was is gone with in months all speech gone, except Daaaaaad mum Nooo Nooo<br />
I watched it with my own eyes, he also has very severely bad gut issues that the gastroenterologist says is just<br />
autisms, bad behavior but when the pain comes on my teenager cries like a baby he starts saying Noooooo Nooooooo then it’s becomes screaming<br />
and can only be calmed with Gas X Oh! but it’s all in their heads this gut wrenching pain!!! what self serving morons we have in the medical community. continued</p>
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		<title>By: Let the people judge</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A hero's credentials (from the previous post)
Dr. Frank Engley studied thimerosal as far back as 1942. Dr. Engley is responsible for the 4 year School of Medicine at the University of Missouri. He has consulted for the CDC, IOM, NASA, FDA, EPA, CIA, AAMI, USP, Armed Forces Epidemiological boards, Army, Navy, Air Force as well as Director of research grants and training grants for NIH. Engley Served on the Council of the NIH Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease and a consultant on many Epidemiological Boards too many to list. Dr. Engley has been a visiting Professor in over 40 foreign countries medical schools. He has produced films, written text books, Laboratory Manuals, over 100 publications, served on editorial boards for numerous scientific journals and periodicals, including four American, two British and one German. Engley is certified by the American Board of Micro Biology and served as the Chair of the Laboratory of American Public Health Association. He has been listed in American Men and Women of Science, Who’s Who in America, Who’s Who in American Education, Who’s Who among Consultants and Who’s Who in the World. His toxicity studies of mercurials in human tissue culture revealed the mercurials were extremely toxic for human cells and the Thimerosal — the most active, toxic down to the nanogram. The amounts of mercury have gone down but vaccines still have 100 times that amount when they are in preservative free and reduced thimerosal vaccines. Dr. Engley die recently with a clear conscience and trying to warn the people.  His last very powerful revolution was this. Dr. Engley was reported as saying on an KOMU article that "if they had followed through on our 82 report the vaccines would have been freed of thimerosal and all this autism they tell me would not have occurred" It's like congressman Burton said on national TV we should be calling for anybody who knew about the dangers of thimerosal (aka mercury in vaccines) and done nothing to protect the American children should have criminal charge drawn up against them
when he said that, the reporter said you mean even government officials, he answered if they knowingly and willingly harm a child shouldn't they. So now you know why they are all willing to go down with the USS ship CDC .They were warned in 1943 AMA report Dr. Engley and other Scientist with integrity,  this is their findings of toxicity "We found thimerosal is toxic down to a level that is almost unbelievable. Down to 1.10, maybe 100 nanograms...a millionth of a gram and that is about as toxic as you can get," he said." also It is clear from this research supported by a grant from the American 
Medical Association that Thimerosal is neither efficacious nor safe, 
and 
should be removed as a preservative in prescription biologics and 
pharmaceutical products, as well as from topical over-the-counter 
products 
such as Butt-Balm that have Thimerosal present in their formulations 
as an 
active ingredient. the warning was ignored and submitted again in 1982 that report was also ignored.

Isn't it amazing, that I the dad of a vaccine damaged aka autistic child know all this and the CDC, which says they have read the simpsonwood report where I gleaned a lot of this knowledge doe's not. Hmm!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A hero&#8217;s credentials (from the previous post)<br />
Dr. Frank Engley studied thimerosal as far back as 1942. Dr. Engley is responsible for the 4 year School of Medicine at the University of Missouri. He has consulted for the CDC, IOM, NASA, FDA, EPA, CIA, AAMI, USP, Armed Forces Epidemiological boards, Army, Navy, Air Force as well as Director of research grants and training grants for NIH. Engley Served on the Council of the NIH Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease and a consultant on many Epidemiological Boards too many to list. Dr. Engley has been a visiting Professor in over 40 foreign countries medical schools. He has produced films, written text books, Laboratory Manuals, over 100 publications, served on editorial boards for numerous scientific journals and periodicals, including four American, two British and one German. Engley is certified by the American Board of Micro Biology and served as the Chair of the Laboratory of American Public Health Association. He has been listed in American Men and Women of Science, Who’s Who in America, Who’s Who in American Education, Who’s Who among Consultants and Who’s Who in the World. His toxicity studies of mercurials in human tissue culture revealed the mercurials were extremely toxic for human cells and the Thimerosal — the most active, toxic down to the nanogram. The amounts of mercury have gone down but vaccines still have 100 times that amount when they are in preservative free and reduced thimerosal vaccines. Dr. Engley die recently with a clear conscience and trying to warn the people.  His last very powerful revolution was this. Dr. Engley was reported as saying on an KOMU article that &#8220;if they had followed through on our 82 report the vaccines would have been freed of thimerosal and all this autism they tell me would not have occurred&#8221; It&#8217;s like congressman Burton said on national TV we should be calling for anybody who knew about the dangers of thimerosal (aka mercury in vaccines) and done nothing to protect the American children should have criminal charge drawn up against them<br />
when he said that, the reporter said you mean even government officials, he answered if they knowingly and willingly harm a child shouldn&#8217;t they. So now you know why they are all willing to go down with the USS ship CDC .They were warned in 1943 AMA report Dr. Engley and other Scientist with integrity,  this is their findings of toxicity &#8220;We found thimerosal is toxic down to a level that is almost unbelievable. Down to 1.10, maybe 100 nanograms&#8230;a millionth of a gram and that is about as toxic as you can get,&#8221; he said.&#8221; also It is clear from this research supported by a grant from the American<br />
Medical Association that Thimerosal is neither efficacious nor safe,<br />
and<br />
should be removed as a preservative in prescription biologics and<br />
pharmaceutical products, as well as from topical over-the-counter<br />
products<br />
such as Butt-Balm that have Thimerosal present in their formulations<br />
as an<br />
active ingredient. the warning was ignored and submitted again in 1982 that report was also ignored.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it amazing, that I the dad of a vaccine damaged aka autistic child know all this and the CDC, which says they have read the simpsonwood report where I gleaned a lot of this knowledge doe&#8217;s not. Hmm!</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James
Do you know that the toxicity climbs by 10 x when you add the aluminum to the mercury it’s called the synergy effect of the two salts mixed they are both neurotoxins but they become a super toxin when you mix aluminum and mercury. Even miners knew that the two react violently together James, answer this what the hell is it doing in Kids vaccines?? Dr. Engley which you could not buy for any money said It thimerosal is toxic at  levels unbelievable  “It’s as toxic as it gets” what did the industry and the FDA, and the CDC, not understand about his findings after all, this was a 1948 AMA funded research and put in the AMA journal. And the icing on the cake, it is useless as a antimicrobial. Pay close attention to what this pro says about preservative free and reduced thimerosal vaccines. It doe’s not match the hacks at the CDC, for their reputation is well earned crap. For when they choose to protect the billionaires at the expense of very sick children they sealed their fate in history, and
only a complete house cleaning at the CDC,
and FDA, starting at the top to the bottom
will do any good… the CDC stench is overwhelming and their people, some have no conscience at all
Who is Dr. Frank Engley ? A hero that's who, and according to Offits new book Autism's false profits
Dr. Engley would be one of them, but read this mans credentials and then you choose who is a false profit. but I will give you a hint it rhymes
with profits
             continued next post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James<br />
Do you know that the toxicity climbs by 10 x when you add the aluminum to the mercury it’s called the synergy effect of the two salts mixed they are both neurotoxins but they become a super toxin when you mix aluminum and mercury. Even miners knew that the two react violently together James, answer this what the hell is it doing in Kids vaccines?? Dr. Engley which you could not buy for any money said It thimerosal is toxic at  levels unbelievable  “It’s as toxic as it gets” what did the industry and the FDA, and the CDC, not understand about his findings after all, this was a 1948 AMA funded research and put in the AMA journal. And the icing on the cake, it is useless as a antimicrobial. Pay close attention to what this pro says about preservative free and reduced thimerosal vaccines. It doe’s not match the hacks at the CDC, for their reputation is well earned crap. For when they choose to protect the billionaires at the expense of very sick children they sealed their fate in history, and<br />
only a complete house cleaning at the CDC,<br />
and FDA, starting at the top to the bottom<br />
will do any good… the CDC stench is overwhelming and their people, some have no conscience at all<br />
Who is Dr. Frank Engley ? A hero that&#8217;s who, and according to Offits new book Autism&#8217;s false profits<br />
Dr. Engley would be one of them, but read this mans credentials and then you choose who is a false profit. but I will give you a hint it rhymes<br />
with profits<br />
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What one per person ? or is mine to Damning to the CDC</description>
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		<description>James
Do you know that the toxicity climbs by 10 x when you add the aluminum to the mercury it’s called the synergy effect of the two salts mixed they are both neurotoxins but they become a super toxin when you mix aluminum and mercury. Even miners knew that the two react violently together James, answer this what the hell is it doing in Kids vaccines?? Dr. Engley which you could not buy for any money said It thimerosal is toxic at  levels unbelievable  “It’s as toxic as it gets” what did the industry and the FDA, and the CDC, not understand about his findings after all, this was a 1948 AMA funded research and put in the AMA journal. And the icing on the cake, it is useless as a antimicrobial. Pay close attention to what this pro says about preservative free and reduced thimerosal vaccines. It doe’s not match the hacks at the CDC, for their reputation is well earned crap. For when they choose to protect the billionaires at the expense of very sick children they sealed their fate in history, and
only a complete house cleaning at the CDC,
and FDA, starting at the top to the bottom
will do any good… the CDC stench is overwhelming and their people, some have no conscience at all
Who is Dr. Frank Engley ? A hero that's who, and according to Offits new book Autism's false profits
Dr. Engley would be one of them, but read this mans credentials and then you choose who is a false profit. but I will give you a hint it rhymes
with profits
Dr. Frank Engley studied thimerosal as far back as 1942. Dr. Engley is responsible for the 4 year School of Medicine at the University of Missouri. He has consulted for the CDC, IOM, NASA, FDA, EPA, CIA, AAMI, USP, Armed Forces Epidemiological boards, Army, Navy, Air Force as well as Director of research grants and training grants for NIH. Engley Served on the Council of the NIH Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease and a consultant on many Epidemiological Boards too many to list. Dr. Engley has been a visiting Professor in over 40 foreign countries medical schools. He has produced films, written text books, Laboratory Manuals, over 100 publications, served on editorial boards for numerous scientific journals and periodicals, including four American, two British and one German. Engley is certified by the American Board of Micro Biology and served as the Chair of the Laboratory of American Public Health Association. He has been listed in American Men and Women of Science, Who’s Who in America, Who’s Who in American Education, Who’s Who among Consultants and Who’s Who in the World. His toxicity studies of mercurials in human tissue culture revealed the mercurials were extremely toxic for human cells and the Thimerosal — the most active, toxic down to the nanogram. The amounts of mercury have gone down but vaccines still have 100 times that amount when they are in preservative free and reduced thimerosal vaccines. Dr. Engley die recently with a clear conscience and trying to warn the people.  His last very powerful revolution was this. Dr. Engley was reported as saying on an KOMU article that "if they had followed through on our 82 report the vaccines would have been freed of thimerosal and all this autism they tell me would not have occurred" It's like congressman Burton said on national TV we should be calling for anybody who knew about the dangers of thimerosal (aka mercury in vaccines) and done nothing to protect the American children should have criminal charge drawn up against them
when he said that, the reporter said you mean even government officials, he answered if they knowingly and willingly harm a child shouldn't they. So now you know why they are all willing to go down with the USS ship CDC .They were warned in 1943 AMA report Dr. Engley and other Scientist with integrity,  this is their findings of toxicity "We found thimerosal is toxic down to a level that is almost unbelievable. Down to 1.10, maybe 100 nanograms...a millionth of a gram and that is about as toxic as you can get," he said." also It is clear from this research supported by a grant from the American 
Medical Association that Thimerosal is neither efficacious nor safe, 
and 
should be removed as a preservative in prescription biologics and 
pharmaceutical products, as well as from topical over-the-counter 
products 
such as Butt-Balm that have Thimerosal present in their formulations 
as an 
active ingredient. the warning was ignored and submitted again in 1982 that report was also ignored.

Isn't it amazing, that I the dad of a vaccine damaged aka autistic child know all this and the CDC, which says they have read the simpsonwood report where I gleaned a lot of this knowledge doe's not. Hmm!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James<br />
Do you know that the toxicity climbs by 10 x when you add the aluminum to the mercury it’s called the synergy effect of the two salts mixed they are both neurotoxins but they become a super toxin when you mix aluminum and mercury. Even miners knew that the two react violently together James, answer this what the hell is it doing in Kids vaccines?? Dr. Engley which you could not buy for any money said It thimerosal is toxic at  levels unbelievable  “It’s as toxic as it gets” what did the industry and the FDA, and the CDC, not understand about his findings after all, this was a 1948 AMA funded research and put in the AMA journal. And the icing on the cake, it is useless as a antimicrobial. Pay close attention to what this pro says about preservative free and reduced thimerosal vaccines. It doe’s not match the hacks at the CDC, for their reputation is well earned crap. For when they choose to protect the billionaires at the expense of very sick children they sealed their fate in history, and<br />
only a complete house cleaning at the CDC,<br />
and FDA, starting at the top to the bottom<br />
will do any good… the CDC stench is overwhelming and their people, some have no conscience at all<br />
Who is Dr. Frank Engley ? A hero that&#8217;s who, and according to Offits new book Autism&#8217;s false profits<br />
Dr. Engley would be one of them, but read this mans credentials and then you choose who is a false profit. but I will give you a hint it rhymes<br />
with profits<br />
Dr. Frank Engley studied thimerosal as far back as 1942. Dr. Engley is responsible for the 4 year School of Medicine at the University of Missouri. He has consulted for the CDC, IOM, NASA, FDA, EPA, CIA, AAMI, USP, Armed Forces Epidemiological boards, Army, Navy, Air Force as well as Director of research grants and training grants for NIH. Engley Served on the Council of the NIH Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease and a consultant on many Epidemiological Boards too many to list. Dr. Engley has been a visiting Professor in over 40 foreign countries medical schools. He has produced films, written text books, Laboratory Manuals, over 100 publications, served on editorial boards for numerous scientific journals and periodicals, including four American, two British and one German. Engley is certified by the American Board of Micro Biology and served as the Chair of the Laboratory of American Public Health Association. He has been listed in American Men and Women of Science, Who’s Who in America, Who’s Who in American Education, Who’s Who among Consultants and Who’s Who in the World. His toxicity studies of mercurials in human tissue culture revealed the mercurials were extremely toxic for human cells and the Thimerosal — the most active, toxic down to the nanogram. The amounts of mercury have gone down but vaccines still have 100 times that amount when they are in preservative free and reduced thimerosal vaccines. Dr. Engley die recently with a clear conscience and trying to warn the people.  His last very powerful revolution was this. Dr. Engley was reported as saying on an KOMU article that &#8220;if they had followed through on our 82 report the vaccines would have been freed of thimerosal and all this autism they tell me would not have occurred&#8221; It&#8217;s like congressman Burton said on national TV we should be calling for anybody who knew about the dangers of thimerosal (aka mercury in vaccines) and done nothing to protect the American children should have criminal charge drawn up against them<br />
when he said that, the reporter said you mean even government officials, he answered if they knowingly and willingly harm a child shouldn&#8217;t they. So now you know why they are all willing to go down with the USS ship CDC .They were warned in 1943 AMA report Dr. Engley and other Scientist with integrity,  this is their findings of toxicity &#8220;We found thimerosal is toxic down to a level that is almost unbelievable. Down to 1.10, maybe 100 nanograms&#8230;a millionth of a gram and that is about as toxic as you can get,&#8221; he said.&#8221; also It is clear from this research supported by a grant from the American<br />
Medical Association that Thimerosal is neither efficacious nor safe,<br />
and<br />
should be removed as a preservative in prescription biologics and<br />
pharmaceutical products, as well as from topical over-the-counter<br />
products<br />
such as Butt-Balm that have Thimerosal present in their formulations<br />
as an<br />
active ingredient. the warning was ignored and submitted again in 1982 that report was also ignored.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it amazing, that I the dad of a vaccine damaged aka autistic child know all this and the CDC, which says they have read the simpsonwood report where I gleaned a lot of this knowledge doe&#8217;s not. Hmm!</p>
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		<description>James this one is for you!and others who think It's Ok! to poison a child

This was a post that went unanswered by Dr. Rahul K. Parikh . hey Rahul 

remember this oath
“Primum nonnocere” “First, do no harm”
It seems to be now , Make money at any, and all cost;
You wrote ;
With all of these strikes against the Geiers, how could their work get published? The fact that there are two types of journals explains this. 

There are those journals in which studies submitted for publication are carefully peer reviewed. And there are those that are not, allowing dubious work to slip by. The Geiers published this study, as well as all of their 
others, in the latter kind.

I tried very hard not to bring my experience
with a journal in which studies submitted for publication are carefully peer reviewed, in this forum.  As the good DR. wrote. But this actually 
happened to me, When I found out Verstraetens work was moved 5 times to almost no side effects and put in the prestigious journal of the AAP, I 
called the journal of AAP and asked how Verstraetens work could have been put in their journal when he had not worked for the CDC in three and a half years?  I ask, would that not present a conflict of interest ?  And what if 
any thing would be a conflict of interest at their journal?for he was working at glaxo S.K, which at that time was in litigation against parents for thimerosal damage. Which should present a direct conflict of interest.  
Keep in mind there was only one call and both she and I were very calm, she then told me "that was a very good question sir, and she said she would have someone get back to me".The phone rang I answered it, It was blocked unknown name unknown number. The man identified him self by saying quote “I am, the top Doc of this journal and I am telling you if you call us back if you bother us again on this issue there will be a knock at your door, and you know what that means" . I did not say anything at first, I just thought about what he had said, and that he had just threatend me.  Then I said what did you just say to me. he said quote “you heard me ” and then he hung up the phone. So you now know why when asked, is that peer reviewed and in a prestigious journal I laugh. Would a prestigious journal call the dad of a severely mercury poisoned child who was only trying to find out why Verstraetens work was published. If he was so clearly conflicted by working at GSK? I, even today cannot understand the call back.  Except the pressure he must have been under by the CDC asking him to put these studies in his journal that he knew were clearly fraud and he must have just cracked, and I was his wippin post that day.  For it would have been easier for him not to call back.        
It’s things like this that make you wonder about conspiracy, not saying there is one. But he the top doc wanted to put the fear in me, for some reason.  Later I found out what made him so paranoid, they the CDC in an Email was discussing that the IOM meeting is within weeks, and that they have searched frantically in the US 
for a study that supports their claim. But that they were not able to find anything, so she suggest going over seas and getting a study, This is the famous Denmark study where a pharmaceutical co. was asked to do a study on
the possibility of their product (since they make all their own vaccines at the statten serum insutude) damaging a generation of children.
I guess that would be like asking ENRON to
investigate ENRON. But! that is how the CDC operates, that is the extent of their scientific studies, that find no link. Also another Email     
practically begging the journal to publish the Danish study which was clearly fraud you talk about dubious work! With the danish study claiming that when the thimerosal was removed the incidence of autism actually went up, then declared that there must be a “neuro-protective” effect on children with thimerosal. thank GOD for the Freedom of information act, 

a review of e-mails exchanged between the Danish researchers and the CDC reveals that the statement “From 1991 until 2000 the incidence increased and continued to rise after the removal of thimerosal from vaccines, including increases among children born after the discontinuation of thimerosal” may not have been true. In an e-mail on 11/13/2002 at 09:24, 

“co-author” Marlene B. Lauritsen informed Drs. Madsen, Thorsen and Schendel 

of the CDC:
“But the incidence and prevalence are still decreasing in 2001?.( can't be going up and down at the same time)
The sentences, before and after that unequivocal statement, were blackened with a magic marker before they were released through the Freedom of 

Information Act. Why must we put up with our ( remember We the people) government agencys that are supposed to be set up to protect us.  We find doing the oppisite, and who will accidentally 
poison our children and then lie about it when caught, then waste precious time and money trying to cover up their lies and deceit with junk studies.

PS. It is really comical to read the Emails of the CDC practically begging the journal of the AAP
to take a good look at the Denmark study, and how well it was bought, I mean done. I was right the first time. what ever happened to a study 

standing on it’s own merits ? ? ? ? ? ?
I guess when you are trying to prove a poison is
not a poison, it’s hard for something like that getting in own it’s own merits . . . .
This is taken from 1953 book The Impact of Science on Society Bertrand Russell author
This is what they used to think mercury did to childen.
"Russell being quoted as saying we would put mercury in vaccines, and other compounds to produce a partial lobotomized state" in another 
place it was  wrote "Russell who advocated the use of vaccines to induce partial chemical lobotomies and create a servile zombie population,"Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible." - Bertrand Russell, “The Impact of Science on Society”, 1953, pg 49-50  also from the book 1953.  Bertrand Russell, The Impact of Science on Society: "...the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology.... The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen. As yet there is only one country which has succeeded in creating this politician’s paradise.”11  My how the times have changed it is now the friendlier gentler kinder mercury as the CDC spokes person put it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James this one is for you!and others who think It&#8217;s Ok! to poison a child</p>
<p>This was a post that went unanswered by Dr. Rahul K. Parikh . hey Rahul </p>
<p>remember this oath<br />
“Primum nonnocere” “First, do no harm”<br />
It seems to be now , Make money at any, and all cost;<br />
You wrote ;<br />
With all of these strikes against the Geiers, how could their work get published? The fact that there are two types of journals explains this. </p>
<p>There are those journals in which studies submitted for publication are carefully peer reviewed. And there are those that are not, allowing dubious work to slip by. The Geiers published this study, as well as all of their<br />
others, in the latter kind.</p>
<p>I tried very hard not to bring my experience<br />
with a journal in which studies submitted for publication are carefully peer reviewed, in this forum.  As the good DR. wrote. But this actually<br />
happened to me, When I found out Verstraetens work was moved 5 times to almost no side effects and put in the prestigious journal of the AAP, I<br />
called the journal of AAP and asked how Verstraetens work could have been put in their journal when he had not worked for the CDC in three and a half years?  I ask, would that not present a conflict of interest ?  And what if<br />
any thing would be a conflict of interest at their journal?for he was working at glaxo S.K, which at that time was in litigation against parents for thimerosal damage. Which should present a direct conflict of interest.<br />
Keep in mind there was only one call and both she and I were very calm, she then told me &#8220;that was a very good question sir, and she said she would have someone get back to me&#8221;.The phone rang I answered it, It was blocked unknown name unknown number. The man identified him self by saying quote “I am, the top Doc of this journal and I am telling you if you call us back if you bother us again on this issue there will be a knock at your door, and you know what that means&#8221; . I did not say anything at first, I just thought about what he had said, and that he had just threatend me.  Then I said what did you just say to me. he said quote “you heard me ” and then he hung up the phone. So you now know why when asked, is that peer reviewed and in a prestigious journal I laugh. Would a prestigious journal call the dad of a severely mercury poisoned child who was only trying to find out why Verstraetens work was published. If he was so clearly conflicted by working at GSK? I, even today cannot understand the call back.  Except the pressure he must have been under by the CDC asking him to put these studies in his journal that he knew were clearly fraud and he must have just cracked, and I was his wippin post that day.  For it would have been easier for him not to call back.<br />
It’s things like this that make you wonder about conspiracy, not saying there is one. But he the top doc wanted to put the fear in me, for some reason.  Later I found out what made him so paranoid, they the CDC in an Email was discussing that the IOM meeting is within weeks, and that they have searched frantically in the US<br />
for a study that supports their claim. But that they were not able to find anything, so she suggest going over seas and getting a study, This is the famous Denmark study where a pharmaceutical co. was asked to do a study on<br />
the possibility of their product (since they make all their own vaccines at the statten serum insutude) damaging a generation of children.<br />
I guess that would be like asking ENRON to<br />
investigate ENRON. But! that is how the CDC operates, that is the extent of their scientific studies, that find no link. Also another Email<br />
practically begging the journal to publish the Danish study which was clearly fraud you talk about dubious work! With the danish study claiming that when the thimerosal was removed the incidence of autism actually went up, then declared that there must be a “neuro-protective” effect on children with thimerosal. thank GOD for the Freedom of information act, </p>
<p>a review of e-mails exchanged between the Danish researchers and the CDC reveals that the statement “From 1991 until 2000 the incidence increased and continued to rise after the removal of thimerosal from vaccines, including increases among children born after the discontinuation of thimerosal” may not have been true. In an e-mail on 11/13/2002 at 09:24, </p>
<p>“co-author” Marlene B. Lauritsen informed Drs. Madsen, Thorsen and Schendel </p>
<p>of the CDC:<br />
“But the incidence and prevalence are still decreasing in 2001?.( can&#8217;t be going up and down at the same time)<br />
The sentences, before and after that unequivocal statement, were blackened with a magic marker before they were released through the Freedom of </p>
<p>Information Act. Why must we put up with our ( remember We the people) government agencys that are supposed to be set up to protect us.  We find doing the oppisite, and who will accidentally<br />
poison our children and then lie about it when caught, then waste precious time and money trying to cover up their lies and deceit with junk studies.</p>
<p>PS. It is really comical to read the Emails of the CDC practically begging the journal of the AAP<br />
to take a good look at the Denmark study, and how well it was bought, I mean done. I was right the first time. what ever happened to a study </p>
<p>standing on it’s own merits ? ? ? ? ? ?<br />
I guess when you are trying to prove a poison is<br />
not a poison, it’s hard for something like that getting in own it’s own merits . . . .<br />
This is taken from 1953 book The Impact of Science on Society Bertrand Russell author<br />
This is what they used to think mercury did to childen.<br />
&#8220;Russell being quoted as saying we would put mercury in vaccines, and other compounds to produce a partial lobotomized state&#8221; in another<br />
place it was  wrote &#8220;Russell who advocated the use of vaccines to induce partial chemical lobotomies and create a servile zombie population,&#8221;Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.&#8221; - Bertrand Russell, “The Impact of Science on Society”, 1953, pg 49-50  also from the book 1953.  Bertrand Russell, The Impact of Science on Society: &#8220;&#8230;the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology&#8230;. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen. As yet there is only one country which has succeeded in creating this politician’s paradise.”11  My how the times have changed it is now the friendlier gentler kinder mercury as the CDC spokes person put it</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine Dow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine Dow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Maryland and I can tell you the rate of autism is frightening. In 1990 we had 28 children in the state with autism, in 2006 we have 5700! Maryland has not stop using mercury containing vaccines. My friend's child received 10 of them in 2005. The flu vaccine contain 25 mg. of mercury, and so does the tetenus vaccine. Pregnant mother is given these, so the baby is already damaged. In testing the mothers at age thirty, many of them have a mercury burden from their childhoold vaccines and are suffering with depresssion, anxiety, OCD, with are symptoms of mercury poisoning. Rho-gam immunoglobins contained up to 50 - 60 mg. of mercury, these were used until 2002, so the baby is predamaged before birth. Vaccines have never been safety tested together. My son is 21 now, he received 3 MMRs, the second one contaminated with menningitis. He is 80% recovered, due to the DAN protocal, chelation, anti-virals, diet, and healing gastro-intestinal disease. The pediatricians get money for every child fullly vaccinated, it the 65% of there business. The pediatricians are not practicing medicine they are selling drugs, most not approved for children and have and are continuing to damage a generation of children. They do not learn about heavy metal poisoning. Thank you for you unbiased report. Elaine Dow, Treasurer of Chesapeake Victories</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Maryland and I can tell you the rate of autism is frightening. In 1990 we had 28 children in the state with autism, in 2006 we have 5700! Maryland has not stop using mercury containing vaccines. My friend&#8217;s child received 10 of them in 2005. The flu vaccine contain 25 mg. of mercury, and so does the tetenus vaccine. Pregnant mother is given these, so the baby is already damaged. In testing the mothers at age thirty, many of them have a mercury burden from their childhoold vaccines and are suffering with depresssion, anxiety, OCD, with are symptoms of mercury poisoning. Rho-gam immunoglobins contained up to 50 - 60 mg. of mercury, these were used until 2002, so the baby is predamaged before birth. Vaccines have never been safety tested together. My son is 21 now, he received 3 MMRs, the second one contaminated with menningitis. He is 80% recovered, due to the DAN protocal, chelation, anti-virals, diet, and healing gastro-intestinal disease. The pediatricians get money for every child fullly vaccinated, it the 65% of there business. The pediatricians are not practicing medicine they are selling drugs, most not approved for children and have and are continuing to damage a generation of children. They do not learn about heavy metal poisoning. Thank you for you unbiased report. Elaine Dow, Treasurer of Chesapeake Victories</p>
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		<title>By: TheProbe</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheProbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“We have the right to have vaccines administered more slowly. We need to start taking charge of our children’s health and not blindly following a schedule that’s overloaded.”

James correctly pointed out the gross mis-information from one of Autism's False Prophets, TACA. The above statement is equally incorrect because there is also no proof that the current vaccination schedule causes any problems. It has been designed to protect young children whose immune systems cannot handle the live virii of several deadly or disabling diseases. 

For a clear and concise discussion of this issue, I heartily recommend Dr. Paul Offit's book, "Autism's False Prophets" which is hated by these anti-vaccination pro-infectious disease merchants of disability and death. 

It is hated because they cannot refute one word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“We have the right to have vaccines administered more slowly. We need to start taking charge of our children’s health and not blindly following a schedule that’s overloaded.”</p>
<p>James correctly pointed out the gross mis-information from one of Autism&#8217;s False Prophets, TACA. The above statement is equally incorrect because there is also no proof that the current vaccination schedule causes any problems. It has been designed to protect young children whose immune systems cannot handle the live virii of several deadly or disabling diseases. </p>
<p>For a clear and concise discussion of this issue, I heartily recommend Dr. Paul Offit&#8217;s book, &#8220;Autism&#8217;s False Prophets&#8221; which is hated by these anti-vaccination pro-infectious disease merchants of disability and death. </p>
<p>It is hated because they cannot refute one word.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I appreciate the thought and effort that went into your main story about immunization, this piece on autism and vaccines unfortunately includes several errors and instances of misinformation.

The article says: "To keep the vaccine in the vials clean, preservatives such as thimersal are used." Thimerosal was voluntarily phased out of nearly all childhood vaccines beginning in 1999. (And it was never present in the measles/mumps/rubella vaccine, the chickenpox vaccine or several others.) Today it is used only in some flu vaccines. In any case, studies have continued to find NO association between the preservative and autism (a small but important contrast to your statement, "(T)here is little link between autism and childhood vaccines.")

Regarding the following statement: "Mercury poisoning, Estepp said, has the same symptoms as autism." This is patently not true. You can compare for yourself the symptoms of mercury poisoning:
http://www.mercurysafety.co.uk/hlthinfo.htm#clinsymp , and the diagnostic symptoms of autism: http://ani.autistics.org/dsm4-autism.html

This is a common canard among people who insist on an autism/vaccines link. But the assertion that autism is another name for mercury poisoning actually has been fading for some time now, even among hard-core vaccine/autism believers, largely because the rate of autism diagnoses continues to rise even though thimerosal has been almost completely out of vaccines for years now.

Lastly, regarding your headline, "Dispute over autism link to vaccine remains": This "dispute" lingers chiefly among a small but strident minority of parents of children with autism. It's also supported by a legal lobby with a huge vested interest in autism-related lawsuits, and a legion of "alternative" practitioners pushing questionable, even dangerous supposed
remedies for autism.

So invested are some of these people in the idea that autistic people have been "poisoned" or "damaged" that they resort to startling and harmful arguments to support their cause. The treasurer of the prominent vaccine-attacking group SafeMinds even said recently that she believes "Death might be better than autism in some cases." I haven't heard a single representative from SafeMinds, the National Autism Association or any of the other mercury/autism lobbies repudiate that statement.

As the parent of a wonderful, lovable child who happens to be autistic, i care very much that the facts get a fair hearing amid all the vaccine hysteria. I don't have any particular love for the pharmaceutical industry, but i do believe vaccines are unquestionably important to public health. Not only is the anti-vaccine rhetoric harming the cause of tolerance and understanding for people with autism, it's also hobbling research into the condition and posing a serious disease risk to society at large.

Thank you for your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I appreciate the thought and effort that went into your main story about immunization, this piece on autism and vaccines unfortunately includes several errors and instances of misinformation.</p>
<p>The article says: &#8220;To keep the vaccine in the vials clean, preservatives such as thimersal are used.&#8221; Thimerosal was voluntarily phased out of nearly all childhood vaccines beginning in 1999. (And it was never present in the measles/mumps/rubella vaccine, the chickenpox vaccine or several others.) Today it is used only in some flu vaccines. In any case, studies have continued to find NO association between the preservative and autism (a small but important contrast to your statement, &#8220;(T)here is little link between autism and childhood vaccines.&#8221;)</p>
<p>Regarding the following statement: &#8220;Mercury poisoning, Estepp said, has the same symptoms as autism.&#8221; This is patently not true. You can compare for yourself the symptoms of mercury poisoning:<br />
<a href="http://www.mercurysafety.co.uk/hlthinfo.htm#clinsymp" rel="nofollow">http://www.mercurysafety.co.uk/hlthinfo.htm#clinsymp</a> , and the diagnostic symptoms of autism: <a href="http://ani.autistics.org/dsm4-autism.html" rel="nofollow">http://ani.autistics.org/dsm4-autism.html</a></p>
<p>This is a common canard among people who insist on an autism/vaccines link. But the assertion that autism is another name for mercury poisoning actually has been fading for some time now, even among hard-core vaccine/autism believers, largely because the rate of autism diagnoses continues to rise even though thimerosal has been almost completely out of vaccines for years now.</p>
<p>Lastly, regarding your headline, &#8220;Dispute over autism link to vaccine remains&#8221;: This &#8220;dispute&#8221; lingers chiefly among a small but strident minority of parents of children with autism. It&#8217;s also supported by a legal lobby with a huge vested interest in autism-related lawsuits, and a legion of &#8220;alternative&#8221; practitioners pushing questionable, even dangerous supposed<br />
remedies for autism.</p>
<p>So invested are some of these people in the idea that autistic people have been &#8220;poisoned&#8221; or &#8220;damaged&#8221; that they resort to startling and harmful arguments to support their cause. The treasurer of the prominent vaccine-attacking group SafeMinds even said recently that she believes &#8220;Death might be better than autism in some cases.&#8221; I haven&#8217;t heard a single representative from SafeMinds, the National Autism Association or any of the other mercury/autism lobbies repudiate that statement.</p>
<p>As the parent of a wonderful, lovable child who happens to be autistic, i care very much that the facts get a fair hearing amid all the vaccine hysteria. I don&#8217;t have any particular love for the pharmaceutical industry, but i do believe vaccines are unquestionably important to public health. Not only is the anti-vaccine rhetoric harming the cause of tolerance and understanding for people with autism, it&#8217;s also hobbling research into the condition and posing a serious disease risk to society at large.</p>
<p>Thank you for your time.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne McElroy Dachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne McElroy Dachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Toledo Free Press and Michael Driehorst for the fair and balanced reporting on the heated controversy over vaccines and autism.  

My only suggestion is that the title should probably be "Dispute over autism link to vaccine increases."  If anything, the public is paying more attention to the claims that vaccines cause autism.  A recent survey revealed that one in 4 Americans now believe it. 

Too often all we only get to read about the opinion of health officials, especially those at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.  For years, as the autism rate exploded from one in 10,000 kids in the 1970s to one in every 150 today, the CDC refused to sound any alarm.  They still don't know if more kids actually have autism or if they're just the result of '"better diagnosing" and no real increase at all.  

(The official statistics don't come close to the reality of the autism epidemic.  The rate of one in 150 was out of date when it came out in Feb. of 2007.  The CDC gave us that figure based on studies of eight year olds done back in 2002 and 2000.  Those children are now 14 and 16 years old. This can hardly be considered a true picture of the autism disaster.  In Minnesota, the recognized rate is one in every 81 kids.  Others put the average rate at one in every 67 children. 

The CDC has given us years of one study after another, all showing that their vaccine program isn't responsible for the autism epidemic.  No one question the fact that we essentually give the CDC oversight over itself.  All the science by independent, well-credentialed scientists showing damaging side effects from the vaccine schedule has been mounting for years but is conveniently ignored by the CDC.  It should be noted that the CDC is the agency where hundreds of individuals have conflict waivers because of direct financial ties to the vaccine makers.

Rebecca Estepp is the voice of reason in the debate.  How can anyone oppose the use of safe, non-toxic vaccines?  How many parents would be comfortable knowing that almost all flu shots available for their children contain a horrendous level of toxic mercury?  How many parents would not be alarmed if they knew that the mercury-based vaccine perservative thimerosal was never tested or approved by the FDA?  

It should be noted that the manufacturers of the flu vaccine state in their published information that accompanies the vaccine that it's never been tested on pregnant women yet it's recommended for pregnant women at all stages of pregnancy.
 
Thimerosal goes back 75 years.  It was invented and tested Eli Lilly Pharmaceutical Company in 1930.  The one study done on thimerosal was done by Eli Lilly on 22 adult patients suffering from meningitis. There was no chance for follow-up to observe long-term effects, as all of the patients died.  Even if follow-up had been possible, damage to the developing brains of very young children would have remained an unknown. Eli Lilly said it was safe and the medical community just accepted it.  After the creation of the FDA, its use was simply continued.  This unconscionable oversight failure should call any safety claim into question.

Rebecca Estepp is right about the number of vaccines our kids receive.  An ad ran in USA Today on Feb 12 and 29: Green our vaccines. And administer them with greater care..  It shows what happened to the vaccine schedule since 1983 and it lists the toxic ingredients like mercury, aluminum, MSG, ether, formaldehyde, and anti-freeze commonly found in vaccines. The soaring increase in autism directly coincided with the dramatic escalation of the number of vaccines.  It's important to note that there has never been a study done on the cumulative effect of so many vaccines with toxic ingredients so soon on the health of a baby. 
 
There are lots of reasons for parents to be concerned about vaccines and serious side-effects.  One of the top US doctors disgrees that the science is in on vaccines and autism.  Former head of the National Institutes of Health, Dr. Bernadine Healy, was interviewed on CBS Evening News on May 12.  She challenged the credibility of the CDC and admonished officials for refusing to investigate a susceptible subgroup of children who unable to eliminate the toxins in vaccines.  This admission that there hasn't been enough research and that epidemiological studies are not proof is a major step toward public recognition about what's happened to our children.  
Healy said that officials have been too quick to dismiss a link between vaccines and autism without ever studying the group that got sick.  There never have been studies done on the kids that developed symptoms of autism within a few weeks of being vaccinated. She furthermore pointed out that the Institute of Medicine which produced the cumulative study on vaccines and autism in 2004 refused to 'pursue susceptibility groups.'  In other words, they didn't want to find any evidence that linked vaccines to autism.  She leaves us with the haunting statement: 'The question has not been answered.'

Findings by Michael Ganz at Harvard make a chilling prediction of the future cost to our society.  Ganz projects that it will cost about $3.2 million to take care of ONE autistic person over his or her lifetime.  His findings are felt by others to be a gross underestimate of the eventual autism price tag. 

Within the next five years, this generation of children with autism will age out into adulthood, dependent on U.S. taxpayers for their support and care.

 
The words of Laura Bono of the National Autism Association are a grim forecast for the future: "As those children reach adulthood, the U.S. is ill-equipped to care for them. Not only do we not have enough services for adults now, the light at the end of the tunnel is a train. Frankly, we don't know what we're going to do."   
  
Anne McElroy Dachel  


Member of the board of The Autism Action Coalition

Media Editor: AGE OF AUTISM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Toledo Free Press and Michael Driehorst for the fair and balanced reporting on the heated controversy over vaccines and autism.  </p>
<p>My only suggestion is that the title should probably be &#8220;Dispute over autism link to vaccine increases.&#8221;  If anything, the public is paying more attention to the claims that vaccines cause autism.  A recent survey revealed that one in 4 Americans now believe it. </p>
<p>Too often all we only get to read about the opinion of health officials, especially those at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.  For years, as the autism rate exploded from one in 10,000 kids in the 1970s to one in every 150 today, the CDC refused to sound any alarm.  They still don&#8217;t know if more kids actually have autism or if they&#8217;re just the result of &#8216;&#8221;better diagnosing&#8221; and no real increase at all.  </p>
<p>(The official statistics don&#8217;t come close to the reality of the autism epidemic.  The rate of one in 150 was out of date when it came out in Feb. of 2007.  The CDC gave us that figure based on studies of eight year olds done back in 2002 and 2000.  Those children are now 14 and 16 years old. This can hardly be considered a true picture of the autism disaster.  In Minnesota, the recognized rate is one in every 81 kids.  Others put the average rate at one in every 67 children. </p>
<p>The CDC has given us years of one study after another, all showing that their vaccine program isn&#8217;t responsible for the autism epidemic.  No one question the fact that we essentually give the CDC oversight over itself.  All the science by independent, well-credentialed scientists showing damaging side effects from the vaccine schedule has been mounting for years but is conveniently ignored by the CDC.  It should be noted that the CDC is the agency where hundreds of individuals have conflict waivers because of direct financial ties to the vaccine makers.</p>
<p>Rebecca Estepp is the voice of reason in the debate.  How can anyone oppose the use of safe, non-toxic vaccines?  How many parents would be comfortable knowing that almost all flu shots available for their children contain a horrendous level of toxic mercury?  How many parents would not be alarmed if they knew that the mercury-based vaccine perservative thimerosal was never tested or approved by the FDA?  </p>
<p>It should be noted that the manufacturers of the flu vaccine state in their published information that accompanies the vaccine that it&#8217;s never been tested on pregnant women yet it&#8217;s recommended for pregnant women at all stages of pregnancy.</p>
<p>Thimerosal goes back 75 years.  It was invented and tested Eli Lilly Pharmaceutical Company in 1930.  The one study done on thimerosal was done by Eli Lilly on 22 adult patients suffering from meningitis. There was no chance for follow-up to observe long-term effects, as all of the patients died.  Even if follow-up had been possible, damage to the developing brains of very young children would have remained an unknown. Eli Lilly said it was safe and the medical community just accepted it.  After the creation of the FDA, its use was simply continued.  This unconscionable oversight failure should call any safety claim into question.</p>
<p>Rebecca Estepp is right about the number of vaccines our kids receive.  An ad ran in USA Today on Feb 12 and 29: Green our vaccines. And administer them with greater care..  It shows what happened to the vaccine schedule since 1983 and it lists the toxic ingredients like mercury, aluminum, MSG, ether, formaldehyde, and anti-freeze commonly found in vaccines. The soaring increase in autism directly coincided with the dramatic escalation of the number of vaccines.  It&#8217;s important to note that there has never been a study done on the cumulative effect of so many vaccines with toxic ingredients so soon on the health of a baby. </p>
<p>There are lots of reasons for parents to be concerned about vaccines and serious side-effects.  One of the top US doctors disgrees that the science is in on vaccines and autism.  Former head of the National Institutes of Health, Dr. Bernadine Healy, was interviewed on CBS Evening News on May 12.  She challenged the credibility of the CDC and admonished officials for refusing to investigate a susceptible subgroup of children who unable to eliminate the toxins in vaccines.  This admission that there hasn&#8217;t been enough research and that epidemiological studies are not proof is a major step toward public recognition about what&#8217;s happened to our children.<br />
Healy said that officials have been too quick to dismiss a link between vaccines and autism without ever studying the group that got sick.  There never have been studies done on the kids that developed symptoms of autism within a few weeks of being vaccinated. She furthermore pointed out that the Institute of Medicine which produced the cumulative study on vaccines and autism in 2004 refused to &#8216;pursue susceptibility groups.&#8217;  In other words, they didn&#8217;t want to find any evidence that linked vaccines to autism.  She leaves us with the haunting statement: &#8216;The question has not been answered.&#8217;</p>
<p>Findings by Michael Ganz at Harvard make a chilling prediction of the future cost to our society.  Ganz projects that it will cost about $3.2 million to take care of ONE autistic person over his or her lifetime.  His findings are felt by others to be a gross underestimate of the eventual autism price tag. </p>
<p>Within the next five years, this generation of children with autism will age out into adulthood, dependent on U.S. taxpayers for their support and care.</p>
<p>The words of Laura Bono of the National Autism Association are a grim forecast for the future: &#8220;As those children reach adulthood, the U.S. is ill-equipped to care for them. Not only do we not have enough services for adults now, the light at the end of the tunnel is a train. Frankly, we don&#8217;t know what we&#8217;re going to do.&#8221;   </p>
<p>Anne McElroy Dachel  </p>
<p>Member of the board of The Autism Action Coalition</p>
<p>Media Editor: AGE OF AUTISM</p>
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